Social Security, Women, And Divorce

Social Security, Women, And Divorce

Key facts you should know

Posted to by Elizabeth Cox on Tue, 02/17/2009 - 7:10pm

On average, women enter their retirement years poorer than men. This is particularly true for divorcing women. The following statistics, provided by the Social Security Administration (June, 2006), bear evidence to this claim:

• In 2004, the average annual Social Security income received by women 65+ was 76% of that received by men.

• Nationwide, Social Security comprises 53% of the income of elderly unmarried women, but only 38% of income for elderly unmarried men.

Part of the reason for this disparity is that women earn less than men on average. Another factor is that if a person (most often a woman) takes time off from the workforce to take care of his/her children or the elderly, the caregiver's Social Security retirement benefits decline. If a person has a few years of no earnings or low earnings, the benefit amount would typically be lower than if that person had worked steadily.

When the Social Security program was designed in the 1930s, it was based on the "traditional" family model in which women stayed at home and focused on homemaking and child-rearing. When a woman's husband retired, he received his Social Security check and she received half the value of his check until he died. Then she received 100 percent. (I'm not sure what the message is here: That homemaking and child-rearing is half as valuable as participating in the workforce? Or that dependent spouses should stay financially dependent)?

In any event, the 50% number rears its head again in the Social Security program's policy toward divorce. Here are some rules:

1. If you divorce after at least 10 years of marriage and don't remarry, you can collect retirement benefits on your former spouse's Social Security record if you are at least age 62 and if your former spouse is entitled to or receiving benefits. This is true whether your ex remarries or not.

2. Full retirement age for Social Security is 65 for those born in 1937 or before and 67 for those born in 1960 or after. For those born in between these years, there is a sliding scale. You can still begin accessing Social Security retirement benefits at age 62, but you will lock in a payment stream that is approximately 30 percent lower than if you wait until your full retirement age.

3. The amount you are entitled to receive is 50% of your ex's Social Security benefit or your own benefit based on your own employment history, whichever is greater.

4. If you remarry, you generally cannot collect benefits on your ex's record unless your later marriage ends (whether by death, divorce, or annulment).

5. If your divorced spouse dies, you can receive 100% of his benefits as a widow/widower if the marriage lasted 10 years or more.

6. Depending on your income bracket, 85% of Social Security benefits can be taxable.

7. One benefit to Social Security is that even if you collect benefits from your ex's record, this doesn't impact his benefit in any way, so it's not a negotiation point in divorce. In fact, he doesn't even have to know when you start receiving benefits.

For more information, check out the Social Security Administration's website at www.ssa.gov.

 

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Comments

Social Security for my husband?

Why would his ex get ANY money from my husband? They both worked soo why can't he get some of her Social Secuity? And if she gets half then what does that leave him with and then me? Really?

Social Security for my husband

Don't worry, whatever she gets does not change the amount that you or your husband are owed in Social Security benefits. The amounts that you and your husband earned are not kept in separate accounts and used to draw from. Instead, there is one huge general fund that all money is taken from. So like I said, if the ex is getting a benefit based on her former marriage, it does not affect what you and your husband will get -the amount is CALCULATED that way, but does not "come out" of his amount - both parties get the benefit. It works both ways - if she had a high income and he did not, HE would be eligible for ½ of her benefit, but I'll bet he was the higher wage earner, so that's why she wants to apply for ½ of his and not the other way around. Note that if she is married now, she can't get it - she has to be unmarried to get an amount that represents ½ of his amount.

Social Security for my husband

I would like to know how much his ex will get and whats left for him to live on ? And becausse we are married how can she still get any from him..She has worked and will collect her own.Whats with collecting from him anyway? She is an ex can't he collect from her too?

I feel the 10 year law should

I feel the 10 year law should be changed if you had children together and the reason for the the ending of the marriage was caused by abuse and the innocent party never remarried.

My sister was married to her

My sister was married to her x husband for 34 years, she is now 63 years old, he divorced her, she is now disabled and for over 10 years has been drawing ssi. Her x husband is remarried, but she has never remarried, but he started getting his disability social security about two years ago, she has been aproved now to draw $549.00 a month from his benifits, can she also draw ssi and if so how much. Can she get the the $549.00 s.s. from her x and the $689.00 a month ssi, or do they just make up the differance between them and her get $689.00 the 549 from s.s. and enough from ssi to make it 689.

divorced

I was married to my ex from 1977 until 1990 he will be 65 in 3-11-12 if he dies before me I am getting SSI. now for disabilaity. I am 59. will I get his SS ? We live together now but as friends! Thank you for lisening to my story. Colleen

Monitoring this site

I noticed that there are a lot of questions on this site, but I didn't find the answers. Is anyone monitoring this site? I'd like to know the answers to some of these questions. Thanks.

Ex-husband social security benefits

I am 65. Divorced. Would it be a benefit to wait to collect on my ex-husband social security until an older age. Would there be a penalty for collecting at 65? I am currently working full time.

SS benefits for divorced woman

I was married for 37 years. If I remarry after age 62 and then divorce, I can still receive SS through my former spouse. I understand that, but IF I remarry a person from Canada, ( in other words someone who does not have SS.) why can't I still receive SS from my ex, because it's the same as Not being married, as far as benefits go.

Penalty for collecting late ex-husband's SS?

I was told that I can collect my late ex-husband's SS at age 66, then switch to my own SS at age 70. We were married 21 years and I have never remarried. However, my sister said a SS official told her that if I collect my late ex-husband's SS for four years, until my higher rate kicks in at 70, I have to repay the amoung I collected from his account. Is this tru?

Collecting ss from ex-spouse

I was born in 46. If I collect SS benefits from ex-husband if there a benefit in waiting til I am 66 or later or should I collect at 65?

Collecting 100 percent after ex's death

Can an ex collect 100 percent of her ex's if he passes away at any age. I was married to him more than 10 years and took an early retirement. At any age will I be entitled to his at 100 percent. What if I remarry? Does it end after I remarry to draw on my ex?

widows benifits

i was divorcded after 35 years of marriage. my ex recently died. i am remarried can i still collect widow benifits

divorced and never remarried

If I start to collect at 62 at a lower rated from my ex husband (we were married for 14 years) and then at 64 or so he dies do I then get 100% of the SS benefit? after reading above is seems that is true. I would like to know for sure. Thank you.. Meg

SS after divorce after married, then divorced

Was married for 25 years, divorced in 1991 was waiting untillage 66 to collect from ex-husbands income. Married in 2008 will divorce in 2010. Current age 64, after my upcomming divorce, will still be able to collect from 1st ex- husbands, as though I was never married, Could you please explain your answer Many Thanks Sonny

Remarriage

The statement of number #4 --- . If you remarry, you generally cannot collect benefits on your ex's record unless your later marriage ends (whether by death, divorce, or annulment). What is meant by "Generally"??? What if I am over 62, collecting on my ex, and then I remarry, and my ex is still living, -- are there any provisions for this situation?? The word "generally" in that statement implies there are exceptions. Thank you.

ss for divorced

My husband passed on about 8 yrs ago...I am now 56 yrs old...I remarried about 4 yrs ago.....I know that I cannot collect my late husband's ss...BUT...if I divorce my current husband will I be still able to collect my late husband's ss at age 60?

social security

keep this in your records Karen

New wife gets half

I was married 27 years and gave him 4 children which I took care of after he left. I am going to be 65 in august and will be collecting a portion of his Social Security because his new wife of only 8 years gets the other half. Why has this not been change? It is so unfair! I came from a generation where we stood home and raised our children, so my Social Security is not enough. I was told there was an Article in a Newsday a while back that said they are trying to change that..do you know if this is true? If so I want to help. Thanks for the opportunity to vent. Please if anyone knows of this movement to change these unfair laws email me. Please put( SS for Divorced) in the subject or I will not open it if I do not know you. Franny

SS

As a late baby boomer with the specter of the non existence of social security being gone before I retire after I paid in for over 35 years, I think the law should be changed so that you cannot collect SS unless you've paid in to the system. You made the financial decision to stay home and raise your children. Not all have that luxury, be happy you can collect from a system into which you paid less than those who have worked and paid in their ENTIRE adult life.

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