Episode 42: The Thrill Is Gone

Episode 42: The Thrill Is Gone

Excerpts from "The Petty Chronicles" Every Monday (rerun)

Posted to by Rachel Gladstone on Mon, 06/27/2011 - 7:36am

Once upon a time in the land of happily-ever-after, I enjoyed a great sex life with the man I promised to have and to hold. What had been a constant in our life ended with a whimper, not a bang, slowly riding off into the sunset until one day I was standing alone in the dark wondering what had happened. By the time I noticed it was gone, any traces of the heat between us had turned cold and I was at a loss as to the whys and wherefores of its disappearance.  

“The thrill is gone,” I told my girlfriends, hoping that they might be able to shed some light on the fact that my husband had lost all interest in me. “Maybe it’s just a phase he’s going through like the terrible twos or a penchant for wearing leisure suits,” one of them said. I had to laugh but really, the whole thing was far from funny.

Since our sex life had been one of the best parts of our marriage and the glue that held us together when all else failed, I thought surely it would rebound. Any day now, I told myself, we’ll be making a big comeback. But after a few months of skating around the edges of seduction only to be repeatedly rebuffed, I began to feel like an untouchable and it became clear to me that our bed would no longer be used for anything but sleeping.

Not wanting to believe his lack of interest was all about me, I made a list of other reasons for his possible leap into the land of sexual exile. Could this lull be a result of depression? If so, this condition was certainly nothing new. He’d never really been what you would call a happy camper but it had never curbed his sexual appetite before, so I tossed that theory aside. There were no medical reasons for his disinterest either. Early morning evidence that he could still get it up only made for longer showers. I suspected he was in there taking care of business on his own, which got a big rise out of me, but not in a good way.

This left only one other possibility: he must be having an affair. After much investigation on my part I came up empty handed on that score as well and although part of me was relieved not to find receipts for hotel rooms and miscellaneous flowers and gifts I almost wished I had, as the alternative was too painful to contemplate: he simply didn’t want me anymore.

My ex had never been big on sharing, like if he kept all the toys to himself it would make him happy. What he failed to realize was that hoarding never makes you happy, it just makes you lonelier. But deep down inside I knew it was pointless to keep pushing him to play with me and that eventually he would come to regret his penchant for behaving like a selfish, willful child.

The chemistry that had drawn us together and the sexual estrangement that had torn us apart straddled our marriage like a pair of mismatched bookends on a shelf that was all but abandoned. Lord knows how or why, but we temporarily ended the drought one cold winter night a few months before he moved out. It was like a final exam, both of us making sure that our failure at being married was indeed as real as we had imagined. That last time was as sad as the first time had been exhilarating and as he gave it one more heave-ho, I cried silently for a love that was lost and gone, never to return. In my head, BB King sang a lonely refrain, “The thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away. I know you done me wrong and you’ll be sorry someday.” And even though I knew nothing could be closer to the truth, that I should feel vindicated by those words, at that very moment, I found that they brought me little comfort.

 

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I feel sorry for guys like

I feel sorry for guys like Steve. "Loses passion". Instead of being honest, manipulates the wife by ignoring her. Passive-aggressive. So, he leaves his wife. Finds someone else. Has "passion". Loses passion. (Steve is probably not over 50 or lives in California). It is moronic and immature to think that any one person will ever solve all of that need for passion. If men were taught to accept their waning passion for what it is, life, we'd all be much better off. Weenies were not meant to be up as often when one gets older. As the years go on, it's better for them NOT to be making babies. There are other things in life that are more important. But so many are stuck on their own, self-centered passion. Please. And they get what they deserve. Continuously waning passion. We don't want Steve to ever get married again. And be honest with the next woman you meet with passion. That your penis is the only thing you care about.

I'm glad someone is finally

I'm glad someone is finally listening. I'm only trying to describe feelings a guy goes through that may help all the women on this site understand what their husbands might be feeling, and for once I'm kind of happy that at least you are opening your mind to the idea. Yes, passion or lack of is a real killer for men. And its true, passion can't last forever, and that's the reality for us men... however, ignoring it doesn't make the problem go away either. It has nothing to do with our penis, I'm not strictly talking about sex, I mean intimacy where you are not role playing or going through the motions, cause you can just bury me now if that's how you're asking me to live. Women view relationships and what they want from a relationship different than most men do, so try not to get upset cause it's not how you would like it. Start caring about how your husband is feeling, and communicate with him about what problems he might be going through to understand how they might or might not be resolvable. A relationship without open communication should never be a relationship to begin with. Btw, don't feel sorry for me, I'm doing what's best for me and that's what all you women should be doing, so stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

HOW TO GET YOUR HUSBAND BACK

1. join a gym/start taking better care of yourself 2. act like you don't care about him 3. flirt with other men while he's around 4. make plans to go out with friends more frequently simply put, you have to ignore him, and at the same time look like you're having a better time without him. If that doesn't work, then there is really no love there that can be fixed.

Hmmmm...?

...secret evil plans forming...

try it. if that doesn't

try it. if that doesn't work, come to terms with it, and move on. all the best!

remember... if he ain't

remember... if he ain't jealous, he ain't in love.

can you really blame a man?

can you really blame a man? his sole purpose in life is to be the "provider" where is the fun in that? working day in and day out, doing the same things, dealing with the same nagging wife over and over. how can you possibly think a marriage of a sexual nature will last in an environment like this? it's not that he doesn't love you, its just that his love for you has changed. it will never be that heartpounding exciting love making after the first year, it just doesn't happen. women will never be content with the life they have, they expect the world and more, without any consideration for what the man wants. women are so selfish and stubborn.

Really? I really don't see

Really? I really don't see it that way. Maybe a man assigns himself to be "provider" and tries to shoulder that burden on his shoulders and silently suffering all the challenges that come with that alone but in many relationships I would bet the woman is more than happy to do what she can to share that burden OR at least appreciate the opportunity to be a listener and be understanding of what he is trying to do while providing for his family. Love evolves and changes through the years. The "honeymoon period" or that initial infatuation changes and morphs into lovemaking that has a different meaning and purpose as the relationship evolves with the challenges of day-to-day life for BOTH partners in the relationship. This just reinforces for me that this problem comes from misunderstandings, lack of communication and some romanticized view of what long term relationships really are. I don't mean long term relationships lack romance but that the expectations of a long term relationship are different than the hormone driven, biochemically dependant stage alter the romance to a completely different level. I know very few women that are not concerned about what the man wants. The trick is to communicate those wants each has in the relationship and in life in general and to be vigilant in making those wants of each of you a priority for both of you. I admit that somewhere down the line in my situation we stopped doing that for the most altruistic of reasons. I believe neither of us wanted to hurt or pressure the other. Unfortunately our efforts to protect each other from the problem made it where we didn't feel like we could talk to each other about what was happening without hurting each other...or thinking the worst would happen if we faced it and sought some help. Well, the worst happened because we didn't get help. So now we know and a great love was buried because of it.

There is no right or wrong

There is no right or wrong answer to this. men and women just have different feelings and different desires. how can you expect them to mesh perfectly forever. this is why I feel no one should get married. the divorce rate speaks for itself, and of the remaining married couples, how many of them are completely happy, or are just staying together to raise the kids? communication will only get you so far, talking about feelings won't change or rekindle them, you're just fooling yourself. look.. I get it... love hurts sometimes, we all go through it, just make the best of the situation you have, even if that means moving on, cause god knows how many sites have the same unresolved issues with no answers. You're no different then them or even your neighbour, I'm pretty sure they are experiencing the exact same thing as you, you just don't hear about it. and that my friend, is reality.

I'm sorry but that sounds so

I'm sorry but that sounds so horribly cynical and not how I choose to look at life and relationships. No, no relationship is perfect. No relationship is rainbows and kittens all the time. I understand that. I embrace that even but I've seen too many truly successful marriages and relationships to believe that it's a hopeless endeavor but I will say I am aware that it takes two people committed to making it work and deciding that leaving or quitting isn't necessarily the answer and you really miss the depth that love and commitment can become if you always take the "easy" road of just throwing in the towel and giving up at signs of trouble. For example my aunt and uncle were together for over 40 years before she passed away and I know their relationship had some struggles through the years. I know they had some seriously tough times but in the end they committed to staying together and to this day, my uncle says that the love they shared in the later years was infinitely more fulfilling than even their hot-and-heavy early days. It became a connection of true depth that wasn't shaken by their problems. This is really what relationships can be about and it is what people who haven't abandoned the idea of marriage and a monogamous committed relationship probably seek. I know that it is in my case anyway. I have zero intention of getting involved myself again but I believe very strongly that long term marital relationships are truly the ideal. I don't care if there are problems. I don't care if he doesn't want to throw me against the wall and get busy every single time he sees me. I care that my needs are important to him and his are important to me. He still likes holding my hand or my goofy sense of humor after years of being together. Sometimes he might want to light that fire and that's okay too. I'm just saying I'm not expecting the "honeymoon experience" forever and I want to be with a guy that is realistic enough to appreciates that the honeymoon thing evolves into something else that is a rare gift to those with the patience to attain it.

Stop dreaming... please.

Stop dreaming... please. Just stop. Come down to earth for a second and understand that men and women have different desires, different hormones, and different ideas. How on earth can you expect TWO people to be happy on the same level as each other? It just doesn't happen, and when it does, it's a miracle, or at least I consider it one. I tell everyone before they get married, that you really have to know what life will be like before you do. The feelings you are experiencing now, will not be the same as the ones 5, 10, even 15 years from now. Unless you experience it for yourself, you really have no clue. It's a wake up call for a lot of couples, many can't handle it, which is completely understandable. Why on earth would you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you are just roommates with? You can do that with anyone. I know what you're gonna say... love is more than just that, not necessarily. A life without REAL intimacy, will cause resentment in a relationship, and this is when problems start to happen. I see it all the time, and there's no real answer to the question, and in most cases the best thing to really do is to split up. Sorry, but I'm not a dreamer... and there's really only so much counseling can do for you, talking won't fix your intimacy problems, neither will games or anything else you try and suggest. So what do you suggest a person do... live in an unhappy relationship for the next 40 years of their life as most on here have, or move on? taking the easy way out as you suggest is usually the best and only solution, you just have to accept it.

Sorry. I just have to

Sorry. I just have to disagree with you. I believe that true happiness does exist in a long term relationship. It's not problem free or absent hills and valleys but I know that it does exist. You may think it's a dream but I strongly disagree. Men and women may view things differently or all of those things that you said but differences do not mean that those things cannot co-exist. I believe they can. Thanks for your concern about my particular point-of-view but I'm just going to continue believing in it.

well, I guess you'll just

well, I guess you'll just have to be more accepting of the circumstances as they come. This is what I mean by women being stubborn. I didn't say it couldn't exist, just that it's extremely rare. I want everything the way you want it to, but in most cases it doesn't play out the way you'd like, or the way your spouse would like. That's reality, so I guess you better get used to it.

not to be one sided, BUT....

Not to be one-sided, or to take sides --- I know there are always two sides to every story.. BUT, I totally disagree with you, Steve, and agree with Smoores 100%. Above all, I think men can sometimes be more stubborn than women.. so I don't think it's as black and white as you describe. My Ex was more stubborn than any girlfriend I ever had. So I don't think gender has anything to do with it. And Smoores. your insight and opinions are incredibly insightful ............ {Not to say SOME of yours (Steve) aren't as well... ], but I think Smoores is much more spot on, in this particular case

Of course you disagree,

Of course you disagree, you're a woman. They always do. ya, real spot on, that's why you're on this site. You just proved my point on how stubborn women are. You come to a site to chat to other women that have the exact same problem, how does that make any sense? you're both looking for the same answer, I'm just trying to help you see the light. Let me lay it out for you, cause I'm a guy just like your husbands, and have been treating my wife just like your husbands have been treating you. See, us men lose PASSION for our wives, and as we've talked about on here, love changes and there are many stages to a relationship, I get it. But as men age and go through midlife, they fear not having that intense love for their partner, that passion, realizing that they may never get that feeling back, so they ignore their wives so that their love fades towards their husbands to make a potential split amicable. However, ignoring your wife only makes them work harder for their love (if your the wife, don't bother, nothing will work). Trust me ladies, if he isn't making an effort to be intimate with you, he never will from this point onwards. If I were a woman in this situation, I would seriously watch how their men are dressing, smelling, looking, and if their schedules are changing in any way. This is the first sign that your husband has met someone else, and may very well be the reason he is ignoring you. I really hope you open your minds just a little to the possibilities.

Steve you talk of women being

Steve you talk of women being stubborn. Is it really being stubborn or is it trying to be hopeful during rough times in a marriage? And is there anything wrong with that? I think many of these women, and even the men on this site (yourself included, I might add) are here trying to seek hope and understanding, and it's that stubbornness that brings them here. I think being stubborn means not giving up on the person you love, or seeking advice before it's too late to turn back, or that one can no longer be in this relationship and they're here trying to regain a bit of self, strength. Stubborn isn't the dirty word the way you make it seem. It's determination and heart. It's passion and understanding. Thank God for stubbornness, cause at the end of the day, that helps get people through and what keeps them going. We could all just give up and think in two-dementional terms as you seem to, but why? It would only lead them to a site where they can share bitterness because they're lost and probably unloved in their own marriage. Speaking of which, is that why you're here? Does she not love you? Does she not see your tremendous value? Is that why you're so angry? Is that why you have to put down this site and the people here? What brought you here? I can only guess you too are just trying to seek understanding...and that gives me hope that YOU may not be as content with the bitterness that emanates from your words and are trying to "understand" where it comes from. Everyone needs support at some point. This site is not where bitterness resides, but hope and acceptance is shared and hopefully found. I hope things work out for you and your wife. I appreciate your input, it's great to get insight from a guys perspective...and I have NO doubt there is truth to it. And truth that might actually help women if they try to see the value in it. I just feel for the angry spot it seems to resonate from.

See the problem is, my wife

See the problem is, my wife is like all of you, she is desperate to find the answers to fix us, she loves me like nothing else. She has recently moved out, and every time we meet to discuss our plans from here, she starts balling. So no, I'm not upset that my wife doesn't love me, cause I know that's not the case, as it isn't with all of you. I told you our stories are all very similar, I'm just posting from the side you're looking for answers from. As you can tell, I'm pretty direct with my responses, I don't like to fabricate dreams, and tell you things to get your hopes up, I speak from the heart, and try to be as honest as I can as much as that can be difficult for some to hear. When I refer to being stubborn, I am referring to the way a woman blocks out advice or opinions that do not reflect their own. I know, I get it, my opinion isn't very enlightening or positive, but not all things are as you're finding out. Please stop dreaming on this one. If you want to feel and do something positive, stop wasting your time in your current relationship, and find someone else or other things that make you happy, cause trying to convince someone to love you, NEVER EVER WORKS, you're wasting your time. Do I have to beg you to listen to me... deep down I want all of you to be happy, I really do, so go find that love and happiness elsewhere and stop wasting your time, effort and life on someone that doesn't. Leaving might be the only way you ever rekindle the feelings you once had, so take control now!

I can see your points...more than I may care too...

I think I see your point steve. I might not agree with all of it, but there is logic there, because I find the more I push, the more he pulls away. The more I fight for our marriage, the less responsive he becomes. My stubbornness might have kept us married for 11 ½ years, but at some point, you’re right, you’ve gotta let go. And if this guy can’t see my worth, or keep rejecting my love, why spend time? It’s a tough thing to hear and it’s tough to understand, but I am worth more, worth loving and worth fighting for and if my husband and your wife can’t see that, well, then that’s too bad for them. Maybe sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. I’m tired of being the only one afraid of losing, time to turn the tables and walk away. I wish you luck and thanks for the “guys” input. It certainly does have it’s advantages to hear from a man, one that’s not my father or brother or has some other genetic connection so they can’t give it to me straight. And even though I wish it weren’t true, there are realities of it that a wife…and sometimes husbands have to face. I promised to love him till death, as he did me, I planned on keeping my promise, if he can’t and won’t do the same and insist on leaving, well then, I guess it’s time to call the game. Good luck Steve…I wish us both luck. =)

You know I mean no harm, and

You know I mean no harm, and I've been in the exact same position as all you women have, where you are constantly fighting for something, and all it does is push them further away, it really is crushing, seriously. But like you say, at some point you have to make yourself happy and get out of a situation that is detrimental to your health, as painful as it feels at the time, moving on is never easy. I wish all of you the best, I sincerely do, you all deserve it!

See the problem is, my wife

See the problem is, my wife is like all of you, she is desperate to find the answers to fix us, she loves me like nothing else. She has recently moved out, and every time we meet to discuss our plans from here, she starts balling. So no, I'm not upset that my wife doesn't love me, cause I know that's not the case, as it isn't with all of you. I told you our stories are all very similar, I'm just posting from the side you're looking for answers from. As you can tell, I'm pretty direct with my responses, I don't like to fabricate dreams, and tell you things to get your hopes up, I speak from the heart, and try to be as honest as I can as much as that can be difficult for some to hear. When I refer to being stubborn, I am referring to the way a woman blocks out advice or opinions that do not reflect their own. I know, I get it, my opinion isn't very enlightening or positive, but not all things are as you're finding out. Please stop dreaming on this one. If you want to feel and do something positive, stop wasting your time in your current relationship, and find someone else or other things that make you happy, cause trying to convince someone to love you, NEVER EVER WORKS, you're wasting your time. Do I have to beg you to listen to me... deep down I want all of you to be happy, I really do, so go find that love and happiness elsewhere and stop wasting your time, effort and life on someone that doesn't. Leaving might be the only way you ever rekindle the feelings you once had, so take control now!

He lost out.

I can completely relate to that strange feeling you have when the sex life just disappears and you don't know why. It felt like something out of the land of make-believe because before it happened to me, I'd never even HEARD of a sexless relationship before but that was exactly what was happening. It wasn't until we were in crisis that I looked it up (and by that I mean Googled the heck out of it) and realized how truly common it is. Of course that only led me to the guilt of not looking it up or seeking help earlier in the situation. I mean, I should have realized going years without sex wasn't normal right? Duh. But he and I made excuses for what was happening and during the course of the development of this "situation" he always seemed so engaged in the fact that we could survive this. He sent me notes and cards telling me how much it said about the strength of our relationship that we could still be together through all of this with him. Those notes said all the right things (which always seem to turn out to be all the wrong things in the long run) to keep me secure in the knowledge that eventually we would figure out a way to get through it to the other side. I believed it every single day until something changed. That something was an affair. I honestly believe he was faithful to me at first but then he started seeking answers without me. He sought answers from a married woman he met in an online video game and somewhere in the course of all that answer seeking he crossed the line and stopped looking at the strength of our relationship and switched to blaming the relationship and me for his problems. Sounds a lot easier than investing the time in trying to fix what's broken doesn't it? Just start new. It's like throwing out an old piece of furniture and going to Rooms to Go and replacing it. The way I see it, that Rooms to Go furniture may put a band-aid on the problem and look all shiny and new when you first get it. The new furniture doesn't show the abuse you hurl on it with everyday use. Eventually though, he gets a another worn out old piece of furniture with the same problems he had with the first piece. To add insult to injury, he flips through the channels on Antiques Roadshow and sees his old thrown away piece of furniture that someone else picked up at his yard sale all polished, refinished and appreciated and find out that old thing was priceless and he lost it because he didn't have the guts to admit that a little work and investment could have revealed the beauty of the piece that he loved in the first place. His loss. And DANG when are we getting the message boards back? I miss my support group of friends desperately!

The Thrill Is Gone

Rachel, you always make me smile, for the same things that you went through, most of us have gone through too. You make it seem so normal when I read your story. It didn't seem so funny for me when I was having the same problem with my wife, as it turned out for me, she was sick and we just didn't know it. I still loved her and stayed with her until she passed away, but for the longest time I didn't know what was happening. Thanks for making me smile, you always do. Rick Fischer

Re "The Thrill is Gone"

Rachel ... You have such an amazing ability to "paint" the most hilarious moments in your divorce and its aftermath...then turn around and write something (like this post) that is so heart-felt, poignant, and "beautifully sad" that it lingers in the mind and heart for hours afterward. Dave

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